Showing posts with label George Steinbrenner. Show all posts
Showing posts with label George Steinbrenner. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 7, 2010

A quick question for whomever designed this Sports Illustrated cover



























Looking for a pic of Steinbrenner for another post, I stumbled across this Sports Illustrated cover from 2003.

And the premise is clear for the 2003 Baseball preview... pitching wins and George Steinbrenner has paid to make sure he has the best staff.

Pettite, Mussina and Clemens all belong. (David Wells who was also on the team just released his book and I guess was persona non grata.)

And you have Contreras and Weaver... who would turn out to be busts in New York only to lead other teams to the World Series title soon after their Yankee stay ended.

That's all fine and good.
Quick question: WHERE THE HELL IS MARIANO RIVERA?

Remember him? The Hall of Famer in the bullpen? The lynchpin of championships?

Seriously, at no point during the photo shoot did Andy Pettite look around and say "Jeff, Jose... nice to see you. Um where the hell is Mo?"

It struck me as odd.




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Monday, December 6, 2010

Miller and Steinbrenner fell short of the Hall... this can't be shocking



Neither Marvin Miller nor George Steinbrenner are going to the Hall of Fame... at least not this year. And no disrespect intended towards Pat Gillick (who I believe deserves his selection) but he didn't have 1/10th the impact on the game that Miller and Steinbrenner had.



But it makes sense, their omission. It is like those years when there is a truly daring and fabulous movie that doesn't win the Best Picture Oscar and a safer film does. (Think Dances with Wolves winning over GoodFellas or Forrest Gump winning over Pulp Fiction and The Shawshank Redemption and Quiz Show.)



Miller changed the power of the game from owners who could cut and lowball players left and right to the era of free agency.



And Steinbrenner embraced free agency when no other owner would and helped bring the Yankees back to glory.



And there's the rub. As important as both of the contributions were, there are plenty of people who think that they damaged baseball much more than they helped it.



Between the free agency meat market, collusion, the strikes and not even mentioning Steinbrenners two suspensions, it doesn't surprise me that they won't be in. They deserve to be in the Hall.



And GoodFellas deserved the Oscar.













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Sunday, December 5, 2010

Hank... you are no George










I never want to hear Hank Steinbrenner try to talk tough about the players ever again.
It's like hearing Julian Lennon. You kind of look like your dad and sound like him... but you aren't the real thing.

He tried to talk tough about Jeter and his contract and how they don't owe him anything.
And guess what? The Yankees caved.

Was ANYONE ELSE offering Jeter a contract remotely close to what he signed? Of course not.
Does the contract make sense in terms of his market value? Not a chance.
Was he already generously paid over a 10 year contract as an elite player? You bet.

But the Yankees, bidding against nobody and holding all sorts of contract leverage folded like a tent.

You think George in his hey day would have stood for this?

Hank is all bark.
Jeter knew this from the start and knew that he was going to get a sweetheart deal even if nobody else in baseball would offer him HALF of that contract.

Now the love fest will begin and Jeter is indeed a great Yankee... and like any great Yankee, he squeezed every last dime out of the franchise while people praised his loyalty.




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Thursday, October 28, 2010

The ghost of George visits Hank and Hal























(Hank and Hal Steinbrenner sit in their Tampa offices. The TV is on showing the Giants and Rangers playing in the World Series. Each are reading over details of Joe Girardi's contract offer. They both look up when they hear a strange rattling.)

HANK:
What the hell was that?

HAL:
Who's there?

(The ghost of their father, George M. Steinbrenner III, appears.)

GHOST:
I am thy father's spirit,
Doom'd for a certain term to walk the night.
But this eternal blazon must not be
To ears of flesh and blood. List, list, O, list!
If thou didst ever thy dear father love--

HANK:
That doesn't sound like you, dad.

HAL:
You never spoke in iambic pentameter.

GHOST:
What? Your old man didn't have a flair for the dramatic?
I ought to fire you both.

HANK:
Now THAT'S dad.

HAL:
What are you doing here?

GHOST:
(Pointing to the TV.)
First of all, I want that turned off. There's no World Series being played
this year. Not as far as we are concerned. Now for the last few years my
body has slowed me down a little. But let me tell you... I am charged up
and ready to be the old George again.

(Ghost sees they are reviewing papers.)

GHOST:
What are you working on? I assume the apology to the fans of New York
for such a poor showing this October?

HAL:
Um... no dad. We're not issuing a statement like that.

GHOST:
Why not? What are you satisfied with this showing? Did you break camp
in April saying "Ooooo. I hope this rag tag bunch of misfits scrapes together 95 wins and gets the Wild Card?" You think New Yorkers want that? You see those "Wild Card" hats and shirts flying off the racks? We should donate the whole damn line to Goodwill. It's a disgrace. What are you working on?

HANK:
These are about Girardi.

GHOST:
Ah. Good work. Get him out of here.

HAL:
Actually it's a three year extension. We're bringing him back.

GHOST:
WHAT?

HANK:
We believe in Joe.

GHOST:
Oh I believe in him too... I believe he just cost us a trip to the World Series. Did you see how he managed that ALCS? He wouldn't bring in Mariano Rivera with the season on the line, but in every big spot out came David Robertson. I read the box scores and kept thinking "Why the hell are they listing his social security number?" Then I realized THAT WAS HIS PLAYOFF E.R.A.!

HAL:
The Rangers were tough.

GHOST:
Tough? We used to beat them and they'd score only one run all series. And those were the Rangers who were all on steroids. But it's easy to score runs I guess when you don't use your Hall of Famers and keep throwing the Robertsons and Mitres of the world. Where the hell was Sabathia when the season was on the line in Game 4?

HANK:
Joe didn't want to wear down his arm.

GHOST:
Wear down his arm? He threw 10 innings over 2 weeks. Billy Martin used to throw Sparky Lyle 10 innings every other day out of the bullpen. Does Sabathia look like a guy who is going to wither away? He's built like a brontosaurus. But I guess Joe got his wish. He'll be well rested for spring training!

HAL:
Burnett actually pitched well.

GHOST:
6 innings and 5 runs for the loss. That's a 7.50 ERA.
For $16 million I'd expect a little more than that.
Catfish Hunter could throw better than that and he's as dead as me!

HANK:
That's not fair, dad. Burnett pitched well for the first 5 innings.

GHOST:
Well unless they shortened the game to 5 innings since I've been gone,
those other 4 innings count too! And going into that game, every Yankee fan out there would ask a GENIE for 5 innings from Burnett... then 2 from Wood and 2 from Rivera. But Clueless Joe kept Burnett out there until his arm fell off. Which reminds me, when the hell did we start letting players wear tattoos on their arm?

HAL:
Molina hit a fluke homer right after the intentional walk.

GHOST:
That's another thing. Why was every other batter intentionally walked?
David Murphy was walked? Did David Murphy become Joe DiMaggio since
I went away? And what's he doing walking Josh Hamilton twice early in
Game 6?

HANK:
Well, best face Guerrero. He didn't do anything all series.

GHOST:
He got 4 hits in one of the games! What happened to going after the hitters?

HAL:
Joe likes to go "By the book."

GHOST:
Let me give you the Cliff Notes for that book. "I have the biggest payroll in baseball and I spit the bit 2 out of 3 seasons." I've read it. Let me spoil the ending for you. It ends with the words "You're fired."

HANK:
He has Cashman's vote of approval.

GHOST:
There's another one. This guy has Monopoly money to play with. He can just keep building Hotels on Park Place and Boardwalk... and we don't have a #4 starter? We don't have a decent pen? That poor shmuck Joba kept being shifted back and forth that Girardi tried to bring him into the game as a reliever but forgot he was starting. Get rid of Cashman.

HAL:
We can't do that!

GHOST:
Why not? There's good GMs floating around out there. Let's see how
they'd feel about working with blank checks. They might even put a Division
Winner on the field... something we've only done ONCE since 2006. And get a
manager in here with some guts.

HANK:
Like who?

GHOST:
Why not Bobby Valentine? I liked that whole "disguise" thing he pulled in
Queens. Very clever. Or hell, Joe Torre's available. Get the author back in here and have him write a sequel.

HAL:
Torre? We've already parted ways. There's too many bad feeling there.

GHOST:
Like Billy Martin and me were singing Kumbaya. I'd bring Billy back sometimes WHILE I was firing him. Let's go. Let's shake things up. I can only do so much from the other world.

HANK:
What should we do first?

GHOST:
Can you shake up the coaching staff?

HAL:
We already let Dave Eiland go.

GHOST:
That's my boy! And by the way. I saw my monument at the Stadium.
It's nice. Understated.

HANK:
Thanks dad.

GHOST:
Fare thee well at once!
The glow-worm shows the matin to be near,
And 'gins to pale his uneffectual fire:
Adieu, adieu! Hank and Hal, remember me.

(Hank and Hal look confused.)


GHOST:
That's Billy Shakespeare. Good guy. Turns out he has a wicked curve ball.
Lived in the wrong century. I would have paid him Kei Igawa money.

(Exit Ghost. Hank and Hal exhale, look at Girardi's extension, and then search for Joe Torre's number.)

HANK:
(Into Phone)
Joe. It's Hank Steinbrenner. You won't BELIEVE why I am calling you.


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Tuesday, September 21, 2010

IT'S THE MONOLITH!






When I saw the Gigantic block that suddenly appeared at Yankee Stadium and saw all the people walking up to touch it, I immediately thought of the Dawn of Man in 2001.

Come on! I can't be the only one who thought of that!

I love how George's monument dwarfs that of Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, Miller Huggins, Lou Gehrig and Babe Ruth's.

Were we expecting something SUBTLE?
Don't complain folks. Steinbrenner wasn't a subtle guy. He's a guy who saw Yankee Stadium and said "I can do better"... TWICE!

Before anyone writes in saying I am not being respectful, remember I am a Red Sox fan who practically wrote a love letter to Steinbrenner after he died.

But look at that picture of David Wells and tell me he isn't going to throw a bone in the air and have it turn into a spaceship!

(Hey, we're talking about the Monolith and it is 2010! Eeerie. OK, not really.)




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IT'S THE MONOLITH!






When I saw the Gigantic block that suddenly appeared at Yankee Stadium and saw all the people walking up to touch it, I immediately thought of the Dawn of Man in 2001.

Come on! I can't be the only one who thought of that!

I love how George's monument dwarfs that of Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, Miller Huggins, Lou Gehrig and Babe Ruth's.

Were we expecting something SUBTLE?
Don't complain folks. Steinbrenner wasn't a subtle guy. He's a guy who saw Yankee Stadium and said "I can do better"... TWICE!

Before anyone writes in saying I am not being respectful, remember I am a Red Sox fan who practically wrote a love letter to Steinbrenner after he died.

But look at that picture of David Wells and tell me he isn't going to throw a bone in the air and have it turn into a spaceship!

(Hey, we're talking about the Monolith and it is 2010! Eeerie. OK, not really.)




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Friday, July 16, 2010

Say what you want about Derek Jeter... he gets it
























He's a guy who understands exactly who he is and what his role is with the team.

He knows that he represents the link to Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Berra and Ford.
He knows that when there is a tremendous shift in Yankeedom, they don't turn to A-Rod or the latest superstar.

Losing Steinbrenner AND Bob Sheppard back to back? That's a double punch that nobody could have imagined.

He is self aware of his role and knows that someday he'll have a monument out there.

He's entered that territory for Boston fans that Magic Johnson eventually entered:
You couldn't stand to face him, but you have to respect him.

And to think the Marlins almost got him for Bryan Harvey!


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Say what you want about Derek Jeter... he gets it
























He's a guy who understands exactly who he is and what his role is with the team.

He knows that he represents the link to Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Berra and Ford.
He knows that when there is a tremendous shift in Yankeedom, they don't turn to A-Rod or the latest superstar.

Losing Steinbrenner AND Bob Sheppard back to back? That's a double punch that nobody could have imagined.

He is self aware of his role and knows that someday he'll have a monument out there.

He's entered that territory for Boston fans that Magic Johnson eventually entered:
You couldn't stand to face him, but you have to respect him.

And to think the Marlins almost got him for Bryan Harvey!


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Tuesday, July 13, 2010

Why this Red Sox fan thinks George Steinbrenner was good for baseball























George Steinbrenner, a unintentionally a showman to the end, died on the morning of the All Star Game. Nobody knows how sick he has been over the last few years as his public appearances have been more and more seldom and his sons Hal and Hank have been running the show.

But now the Boss is gone. And so is a baseball era.

I know I am a Red Sox fan and my blogpost title might have some people think I am going to write a snarky sarcastic piece... or that I am going to try and say something polite out of respect for the recently departed.

But I'm not. I am 100% sincere when I say that when George Steinbrenner took over the Yankees in the 1970s, it was a great moment for baseball in terms of popularity, passion and making the game more fun.

Think about it... for Yankee fans, the franchise turned around twice under his leadership. When he took over the team in 1973 from CBS, the Yankees were just another team. They were 9 years removed from their last pennant and they lagged far behind the Orioles, the Tigers and the mighty Oakland A's in the American League... and the great Yankee Stadium was crumbling.

By the time of his death, the Yankees once again were the gold standard of baseball, winning titles in the 70s, 90s and 2000s with superstars both homegrown and acquired.

Yeah, George had his bad qualities as an owner. His insane merry go round of managers in the 1980s, his gobbling up of free agents from Catfish Hunter to CC Sabathia, and his treatment of Billy Martin, Yogi Berra, Dave Winfield and Joe Torre inexcusable.

But wasn't that part of what made the Yankees of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s fun?

And for the rest of us... it was made the Yankees fun to HATE!

For whatever reason, Yankee fans have never seemed to embrace that they are the bad guys in baseball... the villains. But do you know who DID?

George M. Steinbrenner.

He got it. He understood that role the Yankees play in baseball. As I wrote before, the resentment for the Yankees started long before Steinbrenner took over the team. There's no musical called "Damn Orioles."

But with Steinbrenner the Yankees assumed the role of the monolithic team that everyone wanted to see and beat.

First with the Bronx Zoo, then with the efficient Torre Years and now with the star studded Jeter/Rivera/A-Rod teams, people love to root AGAINST them.

Don't believe me? Check out the Yankees road attendance. Look at places like Oakland or Kansas City or Seattle or Cleveland when the Yankees come to town. There is always a spike in attendance. The teams charge more for tickets because they know that fans want to see their team beat the Yankees.

The Dodgers wouldn't sell single game tickets for the Yankee series... you also had to buy tickets for a less desirable match up.

Like any James Bond film, the better the bad guy, the more exciting it is. And Steinbrenner was always the one to absorb the blows as the Oil Can Harry figure of the team. Whether it was in his crazy press releases, hosting SNL or getting a kick out of being a character on Seinfeld, he understood his role.

It was tough to hate quiet professional stars like Jorge Posada, Andy Pettite, Mariano Rivera and Bernie Williams (although I found ways to)... but George was always a punching bag and he seemed to relish it.

The biggest dips in baseball's popularity were in the late 1960s and the early 1990s... and in both times the Yankees were lousy. Is that a coincidence?

It's tough to get worked up when the bad guy is the Oakland A's or the Baltimore Orioles.

As for the biggest complaint about him... the fact that he spends the most on free agents on payroll, let's not sidestep that.

Yeah, the payroll of the Yankees is obscenely high. Even more obscenely high than my beloved Red Sox who are as gluttonous as John Belushi circa 1981.

Let me ask you something though... do you think Steinbrenner is the richest owner in the game? For years that was Carl Pohlad of the Twins who let his players jump ship left and right and threatened to contract the team.

Who is a bigger disgrace to the game? George Steinbrenner for making every off season somewhat of a circus? Or the Pirates management pocketing revenue sharing and playing in a tax funded stadium while putting an unwatchable product on the field for nearly 2 decades?

And if you think that just playing in New York makes you a winner, then you should have some conversations with some Mets fans... or Knick fans... or Ranger fans... or Jet fans.... (Imagine if you were a Met/Knick/Ranger/Jet fan... Lord help you.)

As with most of the Yankee resentment, there comes a certain amount of jealousy. I know this as a Red Sox fan... I wanted the Yankee titles and all the Yankee stars to come to Boston. And when people started saying the Red Sox were evil like the Yankees I LOVED it.

Let's face it, Sox fans... Steinbrenner and the Yankees raised the interest level for the Red Sox as well.

In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Sox main rivals were the Toronto Blue Jays. Yeah those pennant races were fun (especially the wild down to the last Brunansky catch season of 1990) but they were a mere sparkler compared to the fireworks of the late 1990s and 2000s clash with the Yankees.

The Red Sox became a national brand and the passion went through the roof. Part of that was the new ownership who sold the team to the public better than the moronic Yawkeys ever could. But they also had the perfect bad guy for Red Sox Nation.

Would 2004 have been as sweet if the Red Sox came back from 0-3 against the Twins?

Now of course I am heaping a lot of praise on how Steinbrenner ran the team over the years when of course he made many mistakes and often times was the benefactor of other people's work that he disagreed with.

Lest we forget if he had his way Ron Guidry would have been traded to the Blue Jays.
Bernie Williams would have been dealt countless times.


As I wrote before the Yankees of the 1980s were a comedy of insanely bad decisions.

And Yankee managers Dick Howser, Billy Martin, Lou Piniella, Buck Showalter and Joe Torre all led other teams to the post season after getting fired by George.

But that was one of the things that made George fun as well... pointing out the mistakes and the BAD signings. The Hideki Irabus and Ed Whitsons... the Randy Johnsons and Carl Pavanos.

It's going to be different now. With the Yankees as a conglomerate and most owners being anonymous, you aren't going to see a lightning rod owner like this for a long time.

Who knows how interested Hank and Hal will be in running the Yankees?
Who knows what kind of passion there will be in the front office in the Bronx?

The Boss is gone.
Whether you loved him or hated him... feared him or mocked him... he made the game more fun.

I know I am going to miss him.

I covered a lot of this when I compared Steinbrenner to the Weinstein Brothers a few years ago... it is still applicable.

I don't know if there is an afterlife or not. There may be... there may not be... but if there is, I hope someone up there is recording the George Steinbrenner-Billy Martin reunion.

It would be a sight to behold.

Rest in peace, Mr. Steinbrenner.






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Why this Red Sox fan thinks George Steinbrenner was good for baseball























George Steinbrenner, a unintentionally a showman to the end, died on the morning of the All Star Game. Nobody knows how sick he has been over the last few years as his public appearances have been more and more seldom and his sons Hal and Hank have been running the show.

But now the Boss is gone. And so is a baseball era.

I know I am a Red Sox fan and my blogpost title might have some people think I am going to write a snarky sarcastic piece... or that I am going to try and say something polite out of respect for the recently departed.

But I'm not. I am 100% sincere when I say that when George Steinbrenner took over the Yankees in the 1970s, it was a great moment for baseball in terms of popularity, passion and making the game more fun.

Think about it... for Yankee fans, the franchise turned around twice under his leadership. When he took over the team in 1973 from CBS, the Yankees were just another team. They were 9 years removed from their last pennant and they lagged far behind the Orioles, the Tigers and the mighty Oakland A's in the American League... and the great Yankee Stadium was crumbling.

By the time of his death, the Yankees once again were the gold standard of baseball, winning titles in the 70s, 90s and 2000s with superstars both homegrown and acquired.

Yeah, George had his bad qualities as an owner. His insane merry go round of managers in the 1980s, his gobbling up of free agents from Catfish Hunter to CC Sabathia, and his treatment of Billy Martin, Yogi Berra, Dave Winfield and Joe Torre inexcusable.

But wasn't that part of what made the Yankees of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s fun?

And for the rest of us... it was made the Yankees fun to HATE!

For whatever reason, Yankee fans have never seemed to embrace that they are the bad guys in baseball... the villains. But do you know who DID?

George M. Steinbrenner.

He got it. He understood that role the Yankees play in baseball. As I wrote before, the resentment for the Yankees started long before Steinbrenner took over the team. There's no musical called "Damn Orioles."

But with Steinbrenner the Yankees assumed the role of the monolithic team that everyone wanted to see and beat.

First with the Bronx Zoo, then with the efficient Torre Years and now with the star studded Jeter/Rivera/A-Rod teams, people love to root AGAINST them.

Don't believe me? Check out the Yankees road attendance. Look at places like Oakland or Kansas City or Seattle or Cleveland when the Yankees come to town. There is always a spike in attendance. The teams charge more for tickets because they know that fans want to see their team beat the Yankees.

The Dodgers wouldn't sell single game tickets for the Yankee series... you also had to buy tickets for a less desirable match up.

Like any James Bond film, the better the bad guy, the more exciting it is. And Steinbrenner was always the one to absorb the blows as the Oil Can Harry figure of the team. Whether it was in his crazy press releases, hosting SNL or getting a kick out of being a character on Seinfeld, he understood his role.

It was tough to hate quiet professional stars like Jorge Posada, Andy Pettite, Mariano Rivera and Bernie Williams (although I found ways to)... but George was always a punching bag and he seemed to relish it.

The biggest dips in baseball's popularity were in the late 1960s and the early 1990s... and in both times the Yankees were lousy. Is that a coincidence?

It's tough to get worked up when the bad guy is the Oakland A's or the Baltimore Orioles.

As for the biggest complaint about him... the fact that he spends the most on free agents on payroll, let's not sidestep that.

Yeah, the payroll of the Yankees is obscenely high. Even more obscenely high than my beloved Red Sox who are as gluttonous as John Belushi circa 1981.

Let me ask you something though... do you think Steinbrenner is the richest owner in the game? For years that was Carl Pohlad of the Twins who let his players jump ship left and right and threatened to contract the team.

Who is a bigger disgrace to the game? George Steinbrenner for making every off season somewhat of a circus? Or the Pirates management pocketing revenue sharing and playing in a tax funded stadium while putting an unwatchable product on the field for nearly 2 decades?

And if you think that just playing in New York makes you a winner, then you should have some conversations with some Mets fans... or Knick fans... or Ranger fans... or Jet fans.... (Imagine if you were a Met/Knick/Ranger/Jet fan... Lord help you.)

As with most of the Yankee resentment, there comes a certain amount of jealousy. I know this as a Red Sox fan... I wanted the Yankee titles and all the Yankee stars to come to Boston. And when people started saying the Red Sox were evil like the Yankees I LOVED it.

Let's face it, Sox fans... Steinbrenner and the Yankees raised the interest level for the Red Sox as well.

In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Sox main rivals were the Toronto Blue Jays. Yeah those pennant races were fun (especially the wild down to the last Brunansky catch season of 1990) but they were a mere sparkler compared to the fireworks of the late 1990s and 2000s clash with the Yankees.

The Red Sox became a national brand and the passion went through the roof. Part of that was the new ownership who sold the team to the public better than the moronic Yawkeys ever could. But they also had the perfect bad guy for Red Sox Nation.

Would 2004 have been as sweet if the Red Sox came back from 0-3 against the Twins?

Now of course I am heaping a lot of praise on how Steinbrenner ran the team over the years when of course he made many mistakes and often times was the benefactor of other people's work that he disagreed with.

Lest we forget if he had his way Ron Guidry would have been traded to the Blue Jays.
Bernie Williams would have been dealt countless times.


As I wrote before the Yankees of the 1980s were a comedy of insanely bad decisions.

And Yankee managers Dick Howser, Billy Martin, Lou Piniella, Buck Showalter and Joe Torre all led other teams to the post season after getting fired by George.

But that was one of the things that made George fun as well... pointing out the mistakes and the BAD signings. The Hideki Irabus and Ed Whitsons... the Randy Johnsons and Carl Pavanos.

It's going to be different now. With the Yankees as a conglomerate and most owners being anonymous, you aren't going to see a lightning rod owner like this for a long time.

Who knows how interested Hank and Hal will be in running the Yankees?
Who knows what kind of passion there will be in the front office in the Bronx?

The Boss is gone.
Whether you loved him or hated him... feared him or mocked him... he made the game more fun.

I know I am going to miss him.

I covered a lot of this when I compared Steinbrenner to the Weinstein Brothers a few years ago... it is still applicable.

I don't know if there is an afterlife or not. There may be... there may not be... but if there is, I hope someone up there is recording the George Steinbrenner-Billy Martin reunion.

It would be a sight to behold.

Rest in peace, Mr. Steinbrenner.






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Thursday, March 4, 2010

Sully Basebal Presents THE 1980s YANKEE DYNASTY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN!















The Yankees have been the dominating force in baseball since the 1920s and look like they are going to be the team to beat as we begin the 2010s.

They've won 27 World Series titles... and if you forgot how many they won, just start a conversation with a Yankee fan and they will remind you

They won multiple World Series titles in every decade since the 1920s... with one exception:
The 1980s.

The 1980s were a strange era in Yankee history.

The managerial merry go round became comical. In the 18 years between the 1978 and 1996 World Series, the Yankees changed the manager 17 times. And constantly brought in free agents and traded for veterans, whether they fit the team's need or not.

And year in and year out, the Yankees were overpaid, bloated, old and with glaring holes.

All the while, a lot of the young talent they traded away blossomed elsewhere... creating an interesting "What if...?" for Yankee fans.

What if they held on to some of the young talent? Could there have been a championship (or two) in the 1980s?

Steinbrenner in the late 1970s and through the 1980s, Steinbrenner dealt away two future World Series MVPs, a future two time home run champ, two future Cy Young Award winners and the man who would win the 1985 NL MVP.

While the Yankees struggled to find a steady shortstop, a former farm hand was the starting shortstop for two World Series winners.

While the Yankees lacked pitching depth, former Yankee minor leaguers filled the rotations and bullpens of championship teams.

When the Yankees were in turmoil in 1983, the World Series ended with a complete game by one former Yankee and the Series MVP was won by another.

We Yankee haters never had it so good. So this is Sully Baseball and we do more than just wonder about hypothetical rosters. WE MAKE HYPOTHETICAL ROSTERS.

The staff at Sully Baseball has been working round the clock for our latest entry...
THE 1980s YANKEE DYNASTY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN!

As with other rosters on this blog, there are 25 spots to fill.
A starter at each position, 5 starting pitchers, 5 relievers, 2 reserve infielders, 2 reserve outfielders, a reserve catcher and a 25th man.

Bust out the piano key tie... we're going to the 80s!


Starting Catcher - RICK DEMPSEY

In the wake of Thurman Munson's death, the Yankees wheeled out Rick Cerone, Butch Wynegar, Ron Hassey, Barry Foote, Joel Skinner and Don Slaught at catcher.

Meanwhile Dempsey, who was traded by the Yankees to the Orioles in 1976, was a rock solid defensive catcher for nearly a decade. He caught some of the best pitchers in baseball while in Baltimore and started in two World Series for the Birds. He let his bat do the talking in the 1983 World Series where his .385 average and 1.390 OPS earned his Series MVP honors.

Later while subbing for an injured Mike Scioscia, he caught the 1988 World Series clincher for the Dodgers. He would have been loved by Yankee fans as a gritty and smart catcher and master of handling pitchers.

Starting 1st Baseman - FRED McGRIFF

Can you imagine the Crime Dog taking aim at the short right field of Yankee Stadium?

One of the truly steady power hitters of the late 80s, 1990s and early 2000s, McGriff led both the AL and NL in homers. He was a consistent 30 home run threat. And his 10 homers in 50 career playoff games with a .303 average and .917 OPS in October.

His 493 career homers would make him a Cooperstown bound slugger with the aura of Yankee Stadium around him. Alas he was dealt within the Division as a throw in in the Dale Murray for Dave Collins trade.

Some throw in.

2nd Base - DAMASO GARCIA

When the Yankees dealt playoff hero Chris Chambliss to Toronto after the 1979 season in a trade for Rick Cerone, they were trying to fill the catching void left by Thurman Munson's death. A toss in in the trade was Garcia.

The two time All Star became a solid fielding and Silver Slugger winning second baseman as the Blue Jays transformed from a 95 loss team to a Division winner in 1985 (when they edged out the Yankees.)



Starting Shortstop - GREG GAGNE

Between Bucky Dent and the arrival of Derek Jeter, the shortstop position was a revolving door in the Bronx. They tried Bobby Meachem, Rafael Santana, Wayne Tolleson, Mike Gallego, Andy Stankiewicz and Spike Owen with little luck.

When the Yanks traded for Roy Smalley, they sent Gagne packing to Minnesota. For 8 seasons, Gagne was a steady shortstop in Minnesota. Along the way he hit 4 post season homers and started for two World Series winners.


Starting 3rd Baseman - REX HUDLER

The wonder dog was a former first round pick by the Yankees who was sent packing to Baltimore in the dealfor Gary Roenicke after the 1985 season.

While he was never a star, his hustle and versatility would have made him a loved Yankee. He stole 29 bases as a part time player in 1988 and hit 16 homers in only 92 games for the 1996 Angels. Roenicke was long retired by then.

Today, Hudler would be a staple on the YES Network.


Starting Left Fielder - RUPPERT JONES

Jones was actually a former All Star with Seattle when he arrived in New York in a multi player deal before the 1980 season. His one season in New York was a bust and the Yankees gave up on him, trading him to San Diego in the Jerry Mumphrey trade.

He regained his left handed swing in Southern California, becoming an All Star again in 1982 and contributed to the Tigers' 1984 World Championship and the Angels 1986 AL West title.



Starting Center Fielder - WILLIE McGEE

Arguably the worst move the Yankees made in the 1980s was trading McGee to the Cardinals for Bob Sykes, who never played a game in the Bronx. McGee exploded onto the scene in 1982, becoming a defensive and offensive hero in the World Series for the Cardinals.

He would win a pair of batting titles, be a stolen base threat, a Gold Glover in center field and the Most Valuable Player in the National League for 1985. And year in and year out be a steady switch hitting .300 hitter.

He retired in 1999 at the age of 40 as a member of the Cardinals. Not sure what Bob Sykes was doing then.

Starting Right Fielder - JAY BUHNER

Some trades are easy to destroy in retrospect. The Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps trade made NO SENSE from the first day.

The Yankees, desperately in need for an infusion of youth in 1988, had the young brash right handed slugging Buhner. But for whatever reason, the Yankees lusted after Seattle slugger Ken Phelps, who couldn't play the field. They had an expensive DH in Jack Clark, an expensive first baseman in Don Mattingly, an expensive right fielder in Dave Winfield and an expensive left fielder in Rickey Henderson. In other words, there was no room for Phelps. And Phelps had power, but he wasn't a pull hitter so he wasn't suited for Yankee Stadium.

So naturally the Yankees made the trade. The addition of Phelps made the Yankees play Clark, Henderson and Mattingly out of position as they faded from contention. The next year, Phelps was in Oakland.

Buhner went on to be a fan favorite in Seattle, smacking 25-40 homers a year and protecting Ken Griffey Jr in the order.

The trade had no bigger critic than Frank Costanza.


Starting Designated Hitter - HAL MORRIS

When injuries starting catching up to Don Mattingly, the Yankees could have used a new swing swinging left handed hitting first baseman. What they had was Kevin Maas.

Who they could have used was Hal Morris, who the Yankees shipped off to Cincinnati in a deal for the broken down arm of Tim Leary. While Leary lost 19 games for the 1990 Yankees, Morris batted .340 in the regular season and .417 with an OPS of 1.000 in the NLCS, helping lead the Reds to the World Series title. He would later bat .500 with an OPS of 1.215 in the 1995 playoffs for the Reds.

Leary's career was long over by then.

Starting Rotation

DOUG DRABEK

The Yankees could always hit during the 1980s, but their starting rotation was always in shambles as they kept bringing in veterans on their last legs. One such veteran was Rick Rhoden, who finished 5th in the 1986 Cy Young voting with the Pirates.

The Yankees sent some youth to Pittsburgh, including Drabek, and Rhoden came to the Bronx for 1987. By 1989 he was retiring as a member of the Astros. The next year Drabek won the Cy Young award as he was the ace for the first of three Division winners in Pittsburgh.

JOSE RIJO

The 1990 post season must have been rough to watch for Yankee fans. While Doug Drabek pitched like an ace for the Pirates, another former Yankee, Jose Rijo, helped pitch the Reds all the way to the World Series title. He would win a critical Game 4 of the NLCS for the Reds and go on to be the World Series MVP with his Games 1 and 4 victories against Dave Stewart and the heavily favored A's.

Rijo was part of the deal to bring Rickey Henderson to the Bronx. Of course by the time the 1990 World Series came around, Rijo was facing Henderson... who was back in Oakland.

Bad bad times for Yankee fans.


SCOTT McGREGOR

While former Yankee Rick Dempsey was winning the MVP of the 1983 World Series for the Orioles, another former Yankee was the pitching hero. McGregor pitched a complete game victory to clinch the series against the Phillies.

Twice McGregor finished in the top ten for Cy Young voting. He was a 20 game winner in 1980 and one of the most consistent left handed pitchers in the American League for seven seasons. Safe to say the Yankees could have used his arm. He was part of the same deal that sent Dempsey to Baltimore for Doyle Alexander, Elrod hendricks, Ken Holtzman and Grant Jackson.

There is one more player who got away because of this trade... read on.

AL LEITER

The Yankees hoped the New Jersey native Leiter would add youth to their late 80s rotation. Instead he was dealt to the Blue Jays for Jesse Barfield after Dave Winfield was lost for the 1989 season. At first the deal looked like a bust for Toronto as Leiter only pitched 9 games total in Toronto between 1989 and 1992. But he contributed to the 1993 World Series champions as a reliever, threw a no hitter for the 1996 Marlins and helped the fish win the 1997 World Series.

As a long time Met, he threw the complete game 1 hitter than won the 1999 Wild Card. The Yankees would get to him in the 2000 World Series, making him the hard luck loser in the final Game 5. Leiter would ultimately end his career as a Yankee in 2005, 16 years after he was dealt away.


LaMARR HOYT

The 1983 Yankees finished 7 games out of first place. They lacked pitching depth in their rotation behind Ron Guidry and Dave Righetti. They could have used Hoyt that year, whose 24-10 season earned him the Cy Young award and propelled the White Sox to a division title they won with a 20 game margin.

Hoyt led the AL in wins for 1982 and 1983 and won 16 games for the 1985 Padres before drug busts derailed his career.

Hoyt was a toss in when the Yankees traded Oscar Gamble to the White Sox for Bucky Dent. You've got to watch those toss ins pretty closely.

The Bullpen

TIPPY MARTINEZ

Yet another player from the 1976 trade that cost the Yankees Rick Dempsey and Scott McGregor.

Like Dempsey and McGregor, Martinez had a highlight in 1983 that probably made Steinbrenner's blood boil. He closed out the ALCS that year with 4 shutout relief innings, including the clinching bottom of the 10th in Chicago.

He pitched 11 seasons in Baltimore, saving 21 and winning 9 over 103 relief innings during his All Star campaign of 1983...all while the Yankees lack of pitching depth sunk their pennant hopes year after year.


TIM BURKE

As the Yankees thin pitching staffs were their undoing in the late 1980s, Tim Burke quietly put up tremendous seasons in Montreal. No season was better than his 1987 campaign. He went 7-0 and 18 saves with an ERA of 1.19 over 91 innings. He made the All Star team in 1989 and consistently kept his ERA under 3.00.

The former Yankee farm hand was dealt away to Montreal for Pat Rooney, who never played a game in a Yankee uniform.

Burke returned to the Yankees in 1992 but retired to do Missionary work.


JAY HOWELL

Dave Righetti could have used some solid set up men during the mid to late 1980s. Meanwhile former Yankee Jay Howell made three All Star teams as a closer.

Part of the Rickey Henderson trade before the 1985 season, he saved 29 games and won 9 for a sub .500 A's team that year. Somewhat maligned because of his suspension in the 1988 playoffs and letting up a walk off shot to Mark McGwire in the 1988 World Series, he returned to throw nearly three innings of clutch relief to win Game 4 of the '88 series.

In 1989 he made his third All Star team by saving 28 games for the Dodgers and posting a 1.58 ERA. Not bad for a maligned pitcher.

JIM DESHAIES

A native of New York state and a left hander, Deshaies was exactly the kind of young pitcher the Yankees of the mid 1980s needed. So naturally the Yankees traded him for the ancient Joe Niekro.

He won 12 games as a rookie for the 1986 Astros and set a big league record when he struck out the first 8 batters of a game that September.

As the Yankees collapsed in the 1989 season, Deshaies won 15 games with a 2.91 ERA in Houston.


BOB TEWKSBURY

Tewksbury was a young, hungry and talented pitcher on the 1986 Yankee squad. You know what THAT means?

TRADE BAIT!

Tewksbury was dealt to the Cubs for Steve Trout. They could have traded for an actual trout and it couldn't have gone any worse for the Yankees. Trout was a complete bust.

Meanwhile as a Cardinal, Tewksbury became an All Star, going 16-5 in 1992 and winning 17 in 1993... both years that the Yankees could have used a starting pitcher other than Steve Trout.



The Bench


Reserve Infielder - JOE LEFEBVRE

The versatile utility man could play the infield and the outfield, and batted .310 for the 1983 National League Champion Phillies.

The former Yankee farm hand was included in the deal with Ruppert Jones (and Tim Lollar) to the Padres for Jerry Mumphrey.





Reserve Infielder - JOSE URIBE

As the Yankee merry go round of shortstops continued in the 1980s, the late Jose Uribe was a steady glove for the Giants. He got a key hit in the 1987 NLCS and was the starting shortstop for the 1989 National League champions and was loved by the fans who chanted "Oooo-Re-Bay!"

Nobody was chanting "Bobby Mea-CHEM!"

He was cut by the Yankees minor league system during the 1977 season.



Reserve Outfielder - STAN JAVIER

Along with Rijo and Howell, the A's also picked up Stan Javier in the Rickey Henderson trade.

While never a star, he was a super reliable outfielder and steady veteran for 17 seasons.

He played in 6 different post seasons including the 1989 World Champion A's and was a switch professional hitter with speed.



Reserve Outfielder - OTIS NIXON

The need to trade for Rickey Henderson wouldn't have been so great had Otis Nixon been allowed to develop in New York.

A switch hitter with dazzling defensie skills, he became a 40-50 stolen base threat in Montreal and a post season hero in Atlanta.

His cocaine problems kept him from being a superstar, but he would have been electric in the Bronx.


Reserve Catcher - MIKE HEATH

Like Rick Dempsey, Heath was not a spectacular player. Just a steady leader behind the plate which is what you need from a catcher. He had some pop in his bat, but mainly was a solid receiver.

He caught the A's deep rotation under Billy Ball in 1981 and platooned with Matt Nokes for the Tigers 1987 Division Title.

He was shipped off to the Rangers in the Sparky Lyle for Dave Righetti deal.

25th Man - STEVE BALBONI

With all due respect to Willie Upshaw who was probably a better all around hitter, you had to love "Bye Bye Balboni." He was what slugger looked like before everyone started juicing. Big with a belly, striking out a ton but when he got a hold of one, it was long gone.

He was a product of the Yankee farm system but was shipped off to Kansas City after the 1983 season for Mike Armstrong.

He hit 36 homers for the 1985 World Champion Royals and is the answer to a fascinating trivia question. Who is the only person to hit 35 or more homers for a World Series winner between 1981 and 2000? You can look it up... during the peak of the steroid era, no World Series champ had a 35 homer guy.

Tell me the Yankee fans with beer bellies wouldn't fall in love with this guy!


So that's an interesting team. And it would even be better when you consider some of the mainstays of the 1980 Yankee teams could be inserted into the line up... Don Mattingly at first, Willie Randolph at second, Dave Righetti in the closer role, Dave Winfield in the outfield, Mike Pagliarulo at third.

The best thing that ever happened to the Yankee franchise was Steinbrenner's suspension in the early 1990s.

(Remember the "George must go!" chants? He wasn't the beloved figurehead that he is now.)

With George gone, the Yankees developed some young players like Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, Derek Jeter and Jorge Posada and didn't deal them away.

Although remember when George came back, he wanted to deal Jeter for Bryan Harvey. Old habits die hard.

Oh what could have been... a Yankees dynasty in the 1980s.
Yankee fans have to live with the consolation that they dominated EVERY OTHER decade since Warren G. Harding was president.



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